Ep. 156: Boba, Beads & Building Community

[00:00:01] It's home to world-class shopping, great dining, and amazing attractions and events. And these are our stories presented by Bloomington, Minnesota Travel and Tourism. Hey everybody, welcome to So Much More. I'm Jill Renssel, your host for today's show, and this is Dan Jasper, the fan favorite, my co-host. Hey, Jill, how are you? I'm good. I'm good. I'm excited. Look at all this stuff. We have some really fun stuff. Are you Snoopy fans?

[00:00:23] We are, and we are so excited for our first group today because you guys, we're going to highlight two unique experiences happening here at Mall of America this summer. So first we're going to chat with Jonathan Chong and Yeni Chen, who are co-founders of Nico Nico Boba. And it's about their fun collaboration with Snoopy and the Peanuts gang. We're so excited. Then we're going to meet Rochelle Peterson and Kat Shrai, who are from Lotus Beads and Jewelry.

[00:00:49] We're going to learn about their inspiring international project that's bringing people together one bead at a time. So first off, we're kicking off things about this collaboration. Equal parts nostalgia and summer fun. Nico Nico Boba has teamed up with the Peanuts to create a limited time Snoopy inspired drinks, their merchandise and experiences. And honestly, it couldn't be better. Mall of America. We have a history with Camp Snoopy. We have a history of Snoopy, Charles Schultz and the gang. This is so much fun.

[00:01:18] So I'm very excited to talk with you guys about this. So welcome, Jonathan and Yeni. Thank you. We are huge Boba fans, first of all. We love Nico Nico. Our team is there every morning getting their beverages. But before we jump into Snoopy, let's hear your story. How did Nico Nico Boba get started? So Nico Nico Boba started, you know, with a main goal of creating experience of joy for customers. And we opened our flagship store at the Mall America.

[00:01:47] And then with the sole goal of creating really great drinks, really great experience and something that you can want to come back to that customers want to come back all the time because, you know, it's a it's joyful, you know, Nico Nico means smiles. And so that's what we are trying to achieve all the time, whether it's with Snoopy or any new drinks we're trying to create for you to experience. Yeah. I love that. Did you have anything to add? No, yeah.

[00:02:16] I mean, it's an exciting, you know, when we first launched the brand, it all sent us around bringing joyful moment together. I think that that's the key part. Every time we come up with a new drinks or new partnership, that's always been the center of our universe is to how do we make sure that, you know, every visits that the customer come to our locations, it feels a little bit different.

[00:02:41] Yeah. And there's always there's all these moments worth sharing with their friends, their families. Well, you do so many fun things here. I remember when Nico Nico first opened 13 years ago and I had no idea what Boba was. And I thought it was kind of strange sounding. And I love it now and primarily because of you. So you brought a smile to my face. Thank you. But there's a huge shift in just consumer beverage consumption. I mean, it was always about the coffee shop. Yeah.

[00:03:09] But here at Mall of America, there's longer lines for Boba than there are for coffee. So I love seeing that. And it's something that I feel like year round, any time of the day, it's not just like a morning. It's refreshing. Absolutely. And fun. Yes. So what point would you say that you realize that Nico Nico was more than just a place to come have a beverage? Like you literally are that communal spot for people to meet, to gather. Was there a certain point in your career journey that you realized you really had something special?

[00:03:39] I feel like a few years ago, you know, Boba kind of started catching on. You know, the first few years, you know, when we first started, it was a little harder. People were learning. We were, the mall let us sample, you know, people were still trying and finding out what was, you know, Boba is all about the chewy pearls that you get inside. It's not just a drink. Right. Right. It's not just a drink in a cup.

[00:04:05] Like you can chew on something or nowadays there's a lot of sweet cream that we do with the drinks. So you get different layers of experiences in one drink. Right. It's not like just sip it and it's all done. You get to chew on it. And actually our mix ins there, they all have a little bit different texture. And I think that's what exciting for the customer that you come, you can create the way you want. You can add sweet cream. You can add mix ins.

[00:04:34] We have customers who have five different mix ins. Wow. It's just all different layers. Probably our team. Yeah. But I think that's what's really cool too. And I don't want people to be intimidated if they've never had it before. Cause that's a little bit how I was when I first walked up. I was like, okay, how do I order this? Yeah. But you make it really simple of how you go through the step-by-step process of how you select your beverage with it, which I applaud you on. You make it very inviting for new customers to check out your products. Yeah.

[00:05:00] I think that is really our goal when we design our menus. We want it to be really approachable. Mm-hmm. Like we don't want it to be, you're not unsure whichever drink you get. And then we also have, you know, with this motto of like keeping it joyful.

[00:05:21] We also want your experience to be extremely joyful where like if you don't like your drink, right, we have quite a large menu and you might mix something that you don't like. Like you can just tell us and we'll give you any other drink you want. And that's how we do. So you're saying we can come up there and do a lot of taste testing? You can. Check it all out. We don't like this one. No, just kidding. Okay. The issue is that every time I've tried something, I've liked it. You've liked it. I love that.

[00:05:46] Well, for those that are listening and not viewing, we have a beautiful array of products in front of us that have the Snoopy gang on them. And I would love to hear about how did this come to be? How did you start this collaboration with Peanuts and the gang? Yeah. So like, just like you said, we are a Minnesota founder brand and it was exciting to be able to have this opportunity to have a partnership with Snoopy. Charles Schultz was the creator of Peanuts, was born here in Minnesota. So we have that, you know, special connection.

[00:06:14] But when we think about Peanuts character, we think about timeless happiness, friendship, and sharing moments together. You know, whether you're a child who grew up, whether you're a child who just find out who Snoopy is, or an adult who grew up loving the characters, it creates this connections across generations.

[00:06:38] And, you know, the feeling of joyful happiness and both brands really centered around that. And I feel like it is a very natural partnership where, you know, we just want people to come and enjoy the drinks, shop the collections, and just share happy moments with your friends, your family.

[00:07:00] And we, you know, when we create, when we think about the partnership too, we wanted to make sure that all the experiences that we are offering to the customer, like the meet and greet that we had recently in the Mall of America. That was really fun to have. And who was that with, by the way? Who came here? Snoopy! It was awesome! Yeah, it was really fun. You know, we have people from different generations, kids, you know, parents, grandparents.

[00:07:28] We had people who lined up three hours before the first appearance. So everybody was super excited to meet Snoopy. Yeah, it was a really fun time and we're excited to have this collab with us. And it's available here at all the three locations at the Mall of America. And we also have locations in Florida and Colorado where the collab is available as well. That is fantastic. Talk a little bit about what we're looking at. What do we have in front of us and what are some of your favorite drinks? Yeah.

[00:07:55] So when we created the drinks, we wanted to have to represent every part of the summer. So we had three different drinks. The first one is Snoopy's Matcha Daydream. I think, yep, that one. It is a premium matcha topped with tropical sweet cream that is caramelized on top. So it's like a perfect balance of indulgent and refreshing. And pairs really well. It gets toasted. It's a toasted tropical sweet cream on top. Wow. Kind of like a creme brulee. Yes. It is, yes.

[00:08:25] Nice. And then we also have the Snoopy's Summer Sunset, which is like, yep, that one. That is the fan favorite so far. It's super refreshing. It's the sparkling watermelon strawberry with mango chunks. So it's got a really good blend of tropical flavors and colors. It really gives you that feeling of summer vacation. And then lastly, we have that one is Woodstock's Sunny Splash.

[00:08:52] It is a watermelon lemon green tea topped with tropical sweet cream. Super refreshing. Really perfect for a hot summer day. And all these collections that we see here, we have the tote bags, bag charm, two different pins, two different tumblers, stickers, and the hat. So when we created the collection, it was centered around, you know, what are the things that you want to bring with you on a picnic by the beach at Lake Me Tonga, right?

[00:09:19] So it was really special that we were able to partner with Peanuts to create, you know, the Snoopy, the character drinking boba. So it's truly special. That's not part of the Snoopy archive. Yeah. But when we went to them and said, you know, we really want to do this, they created Snoopy drinking a boba tea. Oh, I love it. For, so what is all the cups? Yeah. They made that whole character for this collaboration. Just for this. Yeah.

[00:09:48] And for those who are listening and can't see on their screen, they're wonderful summer colors and all the merchandise is ordained with, or is covered with Snoopy drinking boba tea. And I see Woodstock in there too. Yeah. And it's just fun and summery. This is great. So you said this collaboration is available at your other locations. Yeah. What made it so special to have it here at the mall? Well, I think it's the history with having Camp Snoopy here.

[00:10:15] So I think that was what, how it started feeling like, okay, we can have Snoopy come to the mall. Right. And, and with, with us having three locations here, it's, it matters, right? It's, it's, it's very connected. The customer remembers what they've seen at the mall America for many years. And so we, we thought it made sense. Like everything will be here. Yeah. You know, the nostalgia, right?

[00:10:43] Snoopy the penis is all about the nostalgia and bringing the fond memories back. We have customers who came for the meet and greet. It was like, it brings such joyful childhood memories and that's why they are there. And they were willing to wait hours and hours to, for the appearance and, and to take a photo with Snoopy. Yeah. So how long is this available? So the promotion runs through July 31st. Okay. Yep. And it is available at all locations. And some of the merchandise actually has, has gone out of stock.

[00:11:12] So we, if, if you are thinking about, we have, we have had to restock them. And the, in Miami especially, it's been, it was really popular when we first launched it. So yeah, when you, if you're thinking about getting them or wanting to try it, come, come to the Mall of America and. And hurry and come and enjoy a great drink. Absolutely. Absolutely. And hopefully this has inspired you to look at other collaborations. We're very excited to hear what's next. Is there anything that you can tee up for us of what's maybe to come after Snoopy?

[00:11:41] Well, we're, we're always kind of looking for something that I think goes well with the Nico like feel of joy. So we're always searching for something. Uh, so that's not, not really yet, but you know, there's always something. We're always working on something. We'll keep you guys in mind. Yeah. I have some things and. Yeah. Yeah. I like it. Some thought starters. Okay. We're going to do a little fun, um, quick fire thing. I want all three of you guys to answer these questions.

[00:12:10] So based on Snoopy and the Peanuts gang, who is your favorite Peanuts character? Why don't you go first? Snoopy. Snoopy. Yeah. Okay. Yanni. Woodstock. Woodstock. Yeah. I love Woodstock. How about you, Dan? Oh, I'm kind of tied between Linus and Pigpen. Is that bad? Why does that not surprise me? Because they're both kind of dorks in their own way. You're too funny. Okay. What do you think about your favorite boba flavor?

[00:12:38] Whether it's one of the Snoopy or the Peanuts ones or not. Yeah. I really love actually the peanut, the, one of the drinks right now, the Woodstock, uh, Sunny Splash. Sunny Splash. Yeah. Okay. I think that is one of our, our best drinks that we've created this year for sure. Yeah. For me, it's a Snoopy Matcha Daydream. It, it, it, it pairs really well with our Brown Sugar Pearls. Um, yeah. It's that perfect combinations of indulgent and refreshing. Um, yeah. Okay.

[00:13:07] And I haven't tried it yet, but I'm going for the Woodstock. Okay. Because that sounds summery. Yeah. It just sounds awesome. Yes. And so in general, are you more sweet or fruity? I, I like the fruity and the nice thing about our drinks is you can get no sugar added from other than, you know, the watermelon, the, the strawberry flavors that we have and the fruit that is in that drink. So there's fruit chunks, like real fruit chunks, uh, in that drink. So I actually drink a lot of our, our drinks with no sugar added.

[00:13:37] Okay. Yeah. For me, it depends on the day. I mean, you know, I, our signature milk tea has been always my go-to, but in a hot summer day, our, our refreshing fruit teas is, it's my go-to. Okay. So yeah. How about you, Dan? Fruit. Fruit. Yeah. So let's talk to our listeners and viewers where they can find you and where they need to come get this new Snoopy collab. Oh, they have to come to the Mall America because it's so meaningful.

[00:14:04] Again, we have three locations at the Mall America and we, the truth is that we have stocked the Mall America more than any of our other locations. You know, we, we love being here at the mall. The mall gave us our first store, you know, many years ago, gave us our chance actually when Boba was not big at all, you know? So I think come to the Mall America, relive your experience of Camp Snoopy at our stores.

[00:14:31] We have Snoopy, um, decals on the stores, you know, that you can only get here at the Mall America. So the flagship store has the most Snoopy decals that you can see. And that's on third floor. Yes. Third level right outside of Nordstrom. Just walk out third level of Nordstrom. And your other two locations, another one on third floor, right? Yeah. One on south side. On the third floor. And then level one on the north. The north side. Yeah. So two level, three locations, one level one.

[00:15:00] Makes it really convenient. So no matter where you're shopping inside Mall of America, you can stop off and get a boba tea at Nico Nico. Both of you, thank you. Jonathan and Yeni, thank you for joining us. We are very excited to have this collaboration. And I know where Dan and I are going to go after the podcast. We're going to go enjoy that. Because from creating smiles from one sip at a time to creating connections one beat at a time, our next guests are going to be part of an incredible international effort that's using creativity to bring people together in truly meaningful ways. So stay tuned for the second half of So Much More.

[00:15:31] Hey, welcome to part two of this episode of So Much More. We are now joined by Rochelle Peterson and Kat Fry from Lotus Beads and Jewelry. And what's best about having a two part series is we have fabulous soup beverages from boba. Nico Nico that we're enjoying. These are awesome. So I'm super excited to be able to taste these with all of you guys, but we're excited to talk about your August event.

[00:15:55] You are going to be hosting the Grand Connection, a global effort to create a one mile long peace chain in honor of Hiroshima Day. So I am super excited to learn about this. So before we talk specifically about Lotus Beads, let's jump right in to this incredible project. So a one mile long peace chain. That's pretty amazing. So where did this idea come from? Well, it's a long process. Um, 15 years ago, 2015, we started the actual peace ring project.

[00:16:25] It started with one ring, one gram of beads where we were teaching classes at the Bead and Button Show. And we wanted a fun project that would connect people together. That'd be easy to make. You can make a whole lot of them and then share them with all your friends. And so because of the uniqueness of these beads, they stack up perfectly. So that way you can wear them, stack them, share them.

[00:16:48] And so we decided to then turn that into a social media project of sharing your joy that you had, then making them with your friends, say something positive, do a hashtag and then tag the bead company. And they will then share, um, to the peace charity in Japan for every hashtag throughout the year. So that way every year we've just evolved it into what more fun can we have every year with this project. So talk a little bit more.

[00:17:18] So people come in and they're able to create these bracelets, these rings, like talk a little bit more about what is the actual engagement. Right. Well, there is bead by bead, link by link, one ring. Then if you connected it with your friend's ring, remember the old paper chains we used to make? Well, this is the same technique. They have to be linked together. So you have to be sitting next to your friend to actually do this as well, generally.

[00:17:44] And you make a chain and we were wearing them as necklaces. Then we're like, well, wow, they're so pretty and all the different things you could do. So we started then saying, well, let's make a whole variety of stitches instead of just the official peace ring stitch because we love the variety and the fun and there's so many beads. And we want everybody to be involved. So that way you can make links in any size, any beads.

[00:18:12] So if you've never beaded before, that's okay. You can just make a ring and tie the knot secure, glue the knots and just make sure it's really strong so that it can hold the weight of your friends. And link by link, we just decided that why not? Let's go big or go home. So I've been working at the Mall of America now and this is just the most amazing place.

[00:18:36] And I've seen so many things happen here that why not let's do the world's longest peace chain. And so working here, being in the center of it all, we talked to them all and they were really excited to then also be a part of this project with us. So then that's what enabled it to become a reality to actually have a place where it had meaning to do something. And that's where the mile came to be.

[00:19:03] If you walk around one mile around the Mall of America, that's how big this place is on every level. Every nook and cranny, all the wonderful mall walkers every morning come to get their steps. So stop into the store, join the workshop, make a peace ring. And then before you know it, the whole world is making them too. So I think we should showcase this one mile link around the Mall. Oh, that would be perfect, right? Yes.

[00:19:33] That's a really good idea. Is that part of the plan? Because I think that's what we should do. Well, we've had a lot of fun planning. Yes, I know. Oh my gosh. Kat is our main technical advisor, artistic director, everything. She's been making flyers, making all sorts of wonderful videos and promotions. Well, it takes a village. I've had a lot of help from everybody at Lotus and like the Upper Midwest Beat Society. So it's really getting the community together in a really, really big way.

[00:20:03] Yeah. What is your hope to accomplish with this effort? Well, my hope is just, well, Rochelle always says it and she's just like, once we're done with this, we're done. We're peace. Like peace. Once we've achieved peace, that's when we're done, right? That's a high level. Yeah, exactly. That's a really big goal, yeah. In the short term though, I really hope that this can bring a little bit of awareness and for people to understand that peace isn't, it's active. Like it takes you reaching out into your community.

[00:20:31] It takes you sitting down with somebody you probably would never have sat down with. I was, I think, at the workshops and everything, I've seen more people come through from like New York, Massachusetts, Colorado and because the Minnesota, like the Mall of America is like a hub. You're connected right to the airport. You get so many people coming in here and so during our Wednesday bead workshops, you're

[00:21:00] getting people from everywhere, from just everywhere and it's a really incredible experience just to sit around with people and just like talk with them while you're beading because beading is meditative so sometimes you don't even have to think about it and you can just chat. You can just chat with people and it's really nice. Well, the cool thing is they come into the store as strangers and they leave as friends. Exactly. And that's what the project is about, right? Exactly. And I love your idea, Jill, of since it's going to be a mile long, of doing something around

[00:21:30] one and third floor might be appropriate or first floor, I don't know, third floor because Lotus Beats is there. Yes. But doing something cool with a camera and there's something there. I just assumed that that was happening, but if it's not, we know people, we can help make that possible. And that's where our grand connection is August 6th, which is honoring the day of peace, the 81st anniversary. So we are inviting the whole world to come here for the grand connection.

[00:21:55] Bring your peace chain segments here and in the rotunda starting at 9am on August 6th, then you can check in, bring your chain, get your free t-shirt. We have t-shirts in all different colors, just like the beads. So that way we'll all look like one giant box of beads. And then you can connect your chain to ours. We're going to measure it. We have to have the official measuring. So we'll connect it to a safety chain.

[00:22:24] We'll have a make it area so you can learn how to make them. And then we'll have a photo op opportunity. We'll have a coloring opportunity as well and a wish board. Just to keep the kids busy. So that you can bring the whole family. That way, if you want a bead, then they can color and they can be entertained as well by watching all of us crazy people go bead, bead, bead crazy. And then after the measuring, we've invited the president and CEO of the bead company

[00:22:54] from Toho Beads in Japan, and he's our official measurer. And they're one of the major sponsors who have been collecting and getting people all over Japan to do the same thing for us. And we have eight boxes of peace chains from Japan that we're connecting to our peace chain that's already currently at Lotus Beads. So there's about 500 meters hanging from the ceiling at Lotus Beads.

[00:23:21] So you can come and see them all hanging and then join our workshop and make your own and then join the Peace Ring Connection. So we're going to do it at 915 at night. Yeah.

[00:23:48] Because the mall closes at 9, everybody gets off of work, come join us, and then we're going to wrap it around the first level starting at the Huntington Rotunda and we'll wrap it around the first level. But earlier in the days, after we measure it, we've reserved the East Parking Lot right over here from the East Parking Ramp. And we need 540 volunteers to spread out our chain in like hearts, peace signs,

[00:24:16] anything we can seem to organize. Katz here is our band leader for the marching band. And we're going to spread out in the East Parking Lot and do some aerial photography. So we're going to do both. So from 9 a.m. to 9 p.m., this is Peace Day Central. I love that. And it's leading right into our birthday week because on August 11th, we have our 34th birthday. Nice. So I think it's a great synergy with that celebration.

[00:24:43] So talk a little bit about the connection to Hiroshima Day. So why is that an important connection? Yeah. So August 6th, I think it was 1985 was the day that Hiroshima was bombed. And then, oh, sorry, 45, I see. 45. And then I think it was 47, 1947, where Hiroshima began the memorial.

[00:25:13] Every year at the Peace Museum, the Peace Memorial, every year since then, they have held a ceremony there. They have just to commemorate and just remember and make sure that it's not, like, forgotten and everything and how peace is important. It's a really just harrowing day.

[00:25:41] But we've... The positivity. The positivity. The positivity. They can come out of it. And that's about why they, the care they take and remember so that it doesn't happen again. Mm-hmm. But we want the hope and future. Every night on August 6th, they light lanterns and they write their prayers and wishes for peace and the names of their loved ones who have passed.

[00:26:07] And they float them down the river below the atomic bomb dome, below the park. And it is really special. And the bead company is based out of Hiroshima. Yeah. And so when they came back from the war, the founders saw everything gray and in destruction. And so, but yet the beautiful colors of the kimonos that his wife and all the women were wearing and bringing color back to the world was their main mission.

[00:26:36] And to celebrate art and community and peace in a way that could, you could rebuild your society in a colorful way. So that, and then honor that tradition. And so the Toho Bead Company has always worked for sustainability and we're honored by the G7 Summit for their work.

[00:26:58] And it's, so that's why we started this nonprofit organization in, oh my gosh, 2007, I think, with, you know, the bead artisans and the stores like Lotus Beads and the bead manufacturers and the distributors so that we could work together to share our love of beading.

[00:27:23] And that's how then, it's just, it's contagious. Everything kind of comes around full circle. And like, I know Bloomington, our city that we're in, also has a sister city in Japan and they, and they honor this day as well. Yes. So this is really important and it connects back to us in a really cool way, I think. Well, and the symbolism of the beads and the linkage, and to your point where you made the very first, or like we've all grown up with creating those links. Yeah. And there's very great symbolism with that.

[00:27:53] And it's about bringing, bringing people together and bringing that full circle and having that connection with peace. And I love the meaningful connection to Hiroshima. So what do you always hope for the people that come out, either they've been participating thus far or come out on August 6th, but what do you hope that they walk away from with this project? Well, a whole lot more friends. Beading is our common language and it breaks down barriers. We find commonality.

[00:28:19] And I have made so many friends this year that I never thought I would. And so I took my boss and my manager to Japan last year and we went to the bead factory. And then I got to meet more of those friends in person that had been socializing through, you know, through the middle of the night since it's the other time zone. You're sleeping when they're awake even. And just the travelers throughout Lotus Beads, it's really, like you said, they come in complete strangers.

[00:28:48] They got a four hour layover and all of a sudden they feel refreshed. They feel a sense of community. I found somebody that just, you know, maybe helps to just understand that we're all in this together. And bead by bead, link by link, it starts with one. And then once you add them together, it becomes a mile. And then we've stretched across the globe. And so it really can be that way.

[00:29:16] So we really hope to take the peace chain back to Japan and all over the globe so that we can make it longer and keep adding to it. But so that people can, you know, see what they've done. Every link counts. And we're part of this. I love that. Kat, let our listeners and viewers know where they can find you here at Mall of America. Absolutely. So Lotus Beads and Jewelry is located on the third floor of the Mall of America.

[00:29:42] We're on the north side, right across from the food court. So very, very, very nice location. So you can bead, grab your food, come back. But yeah, we've been there for about like, I think 18, 18 years now. It's been a long time. It's been a long time. We appreciate you guys. You've been a long time partner of the malls. And it's been a great offering that we can have with our tenant mix. So last couple of questions for each one of you. What is one word that describes peace for you?

[00:30:12] Kat, why don't you start? Community. Community. Yeah. Community for me. Hope. Hope. Dan, how about you? Healing. I love that. What's your favorite bead color? Bead color? Mine has got, Rochelle's giggling over here because she knows exactly which one it is. But it's the, I forget the name of it. It's the green with the fuchsia like inside. It's number 2224. There she goes. There she goes. It doesn't have a name. It has a number.

[00:30:42] She has a number. What is your bead color or number? Mine is 333. It's the green with the gold luster fuming all over the top. Okay. And so. I love that. Dan, do you have a favorite bead color or number? Oh, I'm going to go up to Lotus Beads and look, but I would say a deep turquoise. Ooh. I love that. Kind of the ocean feel to it. Do you have a number for that one? And then fitting with our Nico Nico friends that kicked this off, would you say you like coffee or tea or boba while you're beading? Tea and boba, honestly. Oh my gosh, matcha.

[00:31:11] And now that I've had a matcha boba, this is my new go-to all the way. And Dan. Boba. Boba. Fantastic. Nico Nico boba. Fantastic. Well, Rochelle and Kat, thank you for joining us. And we're very excited for all of you listening and viewing that there's so many fun things happening here at Mall of America, whether the events in our common area, if it's outside, there's so much happening. So definitely check out the Snoopy collab at Nico Nico boba tea, and then also the grand

[00:31:40] connection with Lotus Beads and jewelry. So that's both in their store leading up to, and then on August 6th in our Hunting and Bank rotunda. And we're going to string that mile of beads around the mall. Oh yeah, absolutely. Definitely check it out with us. I really appreciate it. Yay! There's a lot of fun happening here at the mall, so we look forward to seeing you this summer. That's going to do it for this episode of So Much More. Thanks for listening to So Much More, a Mall of America podcast. Subscribe wherever you find your favorite podcasts. This show is presented by Bloomington, Minnesota Travel and Tourism. We'll see you next time.

[00:32:11] We'll see you next time. Bye. Thank you. Bye.